Hubertus Hofkirchner is an economist and entrepreneur from Austria. Hubertus hosts the monthly Austrian Economics Salon at Vienna's Hayek Institute and he shares some fascinating insight into the nature of base money and credit money, how we can understand these from a Bitcoin and Austrian economics perspective as well as what he sees as the next step for growing the Bitcoin circular economy.Hubertus is a key figure in developing the Bitcredit Protocol, an open-source initiative focussed on building a flexible credit money layer on top of Bitcoin for enabling businesses to finance working capital needs, using bills of exchange, e-cash, and the proof of the work of the real economy.

Samson Mow is the former Chief Strategy Officer at Blockstream and current CEO at Jan3, focussed on Nation-state Bitcoin adoption as well as developing the Aqua Bitcoin wallet. Samson is well known for advising various governments and heads of state about Bitcoin adoption, including in El Salvador with their plan to issue Bitcoin Bonds. We discuss the game theory and approaches to nation-state Bitcoin Adoption, including the Bitcoin mining and energy story and how smaller countries like New Zealand can approach Bitcoin at both a grass roots and state level.

Jason Crowe is a business leader who has worked with Iconic New Zealand product brands such as phil&teds, Garage Project, and Goodnature. We discuss Jason’s time working in the banking world and his decision to leave it, as well as how he has come to understand Bitcoin and how it impacts business and finance.Finally we talk about the proof of work of sports and how athletes and sports teams may be able to incorporate Bitcoin thinking into the way they fund and organise themselves, and our new search to find New Zealand’s top Bitcoin sportsperson.

I talk with Rupert Carlyon, Founder and Managing Director of Kōura Wealth KiwiSaver. KiwiSaver is the voluntary retirement savings scheme for New Zealand and Kōura Wealth offers a Carbon Neutral Crypto Fund KiwiSaver product, which is Bitcoin only. This is a way for everyday kiwis to get some kind of Bitcoin exposure with government and employer matched contributions and tax benefits. New Zealand was very late to the game with retirement savings schemes and the impact of this is beginning to be felt with very low savings, and old-age poverty issues. With all the talk about the Bitcoin ETFs globally, it is interesting to explore how traditional finance in New Zealand interfaces with Bitcoin, and the regulatory challenges they have had to overcome to get this product launched.